[bsaul]

I don’t think the general public is aware on what’s going on in china in details. They think it’s still pretty ok. But the direction the country is taking is pretty clear, and we soon should hear about nightmarish events more and more. Once one major western country starts taking a public stance and back it up with actions, the others will follow.

[Consultant32452]

The US has just barely started to make some noises with this mini trade war, which I believe will result in some tariffs remaining in place encouraging some of our manufacturing to move from China to central America.

[raxxorrax]

> the others will follow

Sadly, that is only true for countries that have a president like Trump. A populist, strong-arm type of politician wouldn't be my first choice but my government in Germany would have folded already. They proposed that people need to use their real names on the internet just a few days ago. Yes, it is that bad and yes, they are old and frightened.