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by gonvaled 2590 days ago
Does this apply to phones being currently sold? If I buy today the Huawei P30 Pro, in amazon.de, will I have (and keep) access to Google services?
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The P30 Huawei phones currently sitting on shelves should have all the major Google apps installed already, including the Play Store, and thus should fall into the "Existing Huawei Devices" category. I know this because I bought and returned two P30s (both defective) and settled on getting a P30 Pro.

I don't know what this means for phones that haven't been manufactured yet and whether Huawei will pre-load them with the G Apps.

The big question now is for how long "Google Play and the security protections from Google Play Protect will continue to function on existing Huawei devices." We'll probably find out more during the week.

Phones like the P30 Pro come in various versions : Europe (VOG-L29), International (VOG-L04),... and China (VOG-LT00). From what I've read on some forums the one for China don't have any Google services (+ no SafetyNet).
This is obviously super destructive for Huawei, but for the current phones specifically, I wouldn't be surprised if they grew in value, as the last few phones that has the highest dxo score and with Google.
my (well-informed but not expert) opinion is that you'll be able to use google services and the play store indefinitely, but that phone will not receive any more _system_ updates that maintain access to google services (since any android update w/ services baked in require google's cts and vts certification, which they will no longer perform for Huawei)
Are you saying that:

A) all Huawei phones (old or currently being sold) with Google services will keep access to the services, even in the long term?

B) the only effect fo the ban on current Huawei phones (old or currently being sold) will be that updates will be stopped?

A is good news, but B is catastrophic. This means that the effects of this ban will be to put Huawei customers at risk.

One thing is to prevent customers to access a given service. Another thing completely different is to allow access to a service, and then let those same customers down regarding security updates.

I hope that at least security updates will be allowed.

Apparently they won't get CVEs ahead of time, so they'll have to patch them themselves once they are made public.
So a Huawei phone will be stuck on Android Pie, since any upgrade to the forthcoming Q release requires re-certification?
I don't think anyone knows. But it says existing and that phone is existing in customer pockets today.