[tzs]

> Personally I'm not sure it's something that makes sense, it should just be factored in to the wage. Most hourly paid jobs I know of don't have regular hours, even - how much do you pay for a week's holiday when some weeks the employee works 8 hours and some 24 hours? An average? Of what, if they've only been there a few months, say?

If you want full time hourly employees (40 hours per week) to earn two weeks of paid vacation per year, then you have hourly workers accrue vacation time at a rate of 1 hour vacation earned for every 25 hours on the clock.

This system handles people who hours worked varies from week to week, and it handles people who have not been there long enough to earn the full two weeks--ever 5 weeks they have accumulated a vacation day, so if they want to take a week off 6 months in, say, that works.

It also works for tracking vacation time for salaried employees. For salaried employees you just force the hours worked to 8 per day in the program that calculates vacation accrual, regardless of the actual hours worked (assuming that you even track actual hours worked for salaried employees).

[esotericn]

I think you're missing the point another poster brought up which is that a "holiday hour" for a real hourly worker (e.g. one with flexible hours, shift work etc) is nebulous.

So let's say under your system an employee works an average of 8 hours a week. After half a year they've accrued 8 hours of holiday.

That's 1 day.

The pay isn't the issue but the legal obligation to allow the worker to not work, if that makes sense.

Whether holidays are unpaid or paid is just shuffling cashflow in time, the real problem is the amount of holiday that's possible.

[tptacek]

If you work 1 day a week, after half a year you can still take a week off; your 1 vacation day, added to the 4 other workdays you don't work.

[esotericn]

A part-time/ZHC worker in the UK doesn't work a set number of days a week.

They're assigned a variable number of hours per week. It might be 4 this week, 20 the next, 0 after that, etc.

You wait for the rota and work what you've been assigned.

It's kind of like a lower-level version of being on call.

It only really even works in the first place because we have all sorts of insane welfare subsidies that mean people have their income topped up to make up the shortfall.

I would imagine something like this must exist in the US. A quick google brought up https://www.governing.com/topics/mgmt/gov-work-irregular-hou... which sounds basically like what exists here.