[kurthr]

Science Technology Engineering and Math aren't just for business, but I think you mean that the business managers end up owning their product?

MBAs seem mostly centered on the US (some in Europe, but much less in Asia) business experience. I haven't noticed that it's made the US much more successful, but it is important to have the MBA tool set to fairly get money out of the US banking/venture system.

In other places the business might hire a CFO to do the money-work rather than making them CEO or requiring it of your VPs. So although an MBA might be useful in many business contexts (especially in the US), I don't think id make it part of STEMB.

[kurthr]

On the other hand, I will say that I agree with you (and Wilson) on the idea that selfish MBA leaders make use of collaborative (STEM) workers all too often. Where I disagree (I think with both) is that while research/science can be a wonderful thing on its own, having a broad basis particularly in highschool/undergrad is more useful to allow the full flowering of knowledge and creativity. Depth first is better for chess and an MBA may help you win the money game... but not necessarily for discovery.

[bsenftner]

I'm not saying Science Technology Engineering and Math are just for business; I'm saying a knowledge of business is essential to achieving large ambitions.

[oneplane]

The knowledge of business isn't the same as MBA. And plenty of large ambitions work out pretty well without either.

Business knowledge and/or MBA's are only relevant for large ambitions if those large ambitions are actually not large ambitions but rather large amounts of money instead, which in itself is without intrinsic value.