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by spazmaster 5666 days ago
Hasn't the writer heard of Justin Bieber? Who does he think his 6 million followers are? I actually think Bieber might be a big reason why more and more teenagers ARE starting to tweet. I recently did interviews with High School kids and was surprised to hear how many of them used twitter.
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Just because Justin Bieber has 6m followers, doesn't mean any of them tweet.

Twitter has always been more of a 'broadcast to followers' than a conversational tool.

> Twitter has always been more of a 'broadcast to followers' than a conversational tool.

Can you substantiate this in any way? This doesn't match my experiences using twitter at all.

A friend of mine who got on the featured users list and went from 10,000 followers to 1,000,000 followers said it was like nothing changed. The number of @replies and RTs didn't increase noticeably at all.
The first time I have ever heard of Justin Bieber was by seeing his name in the trending topics for weeks in a row. (first half of the year) So a lot of Bieber fans do tweet.
I think twitter changed their trending topics algorithm to not show Justin Bieber every time, they opted for new popular topics instead of always popular topics.
The author admits that some subset of teens do tweet for specific reasons. He does not really mention whether teens follow others on twitter or not, just whether they broadcast information. I agree that most of those followers of Justin Bieber are probably teenagers, however how many are actively tweeting as well as following? I think you may be arguing a point the author wasn't trying to make. His opinions were about producing information, not consuming it.
I'd argue that the logic is flawed. Studies have shown that Twitter users in general are more narcissistic than Facebook users (although rather obviously the frequent status updaters on Facebook are more narcissistic than average users) in general.

Given that teenagers are in general the most narcissistic group of all humans - seemingly by biological specialization - that they should be the biggest tweeters.

I believe the reason teens aren't bigger twitterers is because they're not being exposed to it. Online membership is a rather passive recruiting method, it's not like boy scouts where there's someone coming into your classroom trying to get you to join. Teens will have to find twitter largely on their own, which if Twitter isn't advertising to teens it means it largely won't be found until it goes viral in schools like MySpace did in its day, notably another very narcissistic site.

Teens in more affluent areas, with better phones and messaging plans are likely more twitter users simply by virtue of better access.

To answer honestly, no. I don't think I've ever heard that name before.

Perhaps not coincidentally, I don't understand why anybody would use Twitter. I mean, I certainly understand why you'd post stuff to Twitter. I just can't imagine why anybody would ever read anything that had been posted there.

As far as I can tell, it's a huge population of people shouting to promote themselves. If there were actually anybody listening, that might be useful. But I don't think anybody actually is. Or at least I can't imagine a personality type who would do so.

One use: read top HN posts as a stream (more in http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1960762)

It's great for getting news from people you find interesting (let it be Paul Graham, Tim O'Reilly, a creator of language you like). Also, many projects announce new releases on twitter (ruby's twitter gem for instance http://twitter.com/#!/gem). Best of all: you know all these updates are short.

Besides you can favorite/RT items you think are interesting for later retrieval (using delicious to save twits is an alternative, but a cumbersome one).

On the sending side, it is good if you are one of such interesting people, and whish to keep people updated. Setting up forums/google groups just to give notice of a new release is too much of a overhead when you have twitter.

These are the information retrieval and useful aspects of Twitter, and are useful even if you have no friends/colleagues.

There is also the social one, which you people make of it as they want, like a sms broacast for setting up dinners with friends. If you have enough followers, you can use it effectively to ask for information. You can use it to ask people short questions, and engage in quick conversations with people that would not otherwise answer an email.

There are many other uses. In a nutshell: twitter is what you make of it.

A few of the reasons I use twitter:

1) Interesting links/insight, if I see someone posting good stuff on HN I might follow them on twitter.

2) Keeping track of events in the tech/startup sector, there's nothing that even comes close to twitter in terms of allowing you to keep an eye on what's going on

3) Staying in touch with people you meet at conferences, etc.

If you're a business then Twitter gives you an invaluable source of feedback, people might not complain to you when they get frustrated by your product but they may well complain on their twitter. It's also a great source for customer leads.

It seems to me that a lot of people use it as a replacement for RSS. I'm not sure why a reader would prefer to consume a twitter feed over RSS, but evidently a lot of people do.
I don't know about others, but the fact that Twitter has a single API (as compared to RSS1 vs. RSS2 vs. Atom, etc.) is an advantage. The fact that Twitter is JSON whereas RSS is XML is also a benefit.
Aren't there legions of creepy old dudes and women who are part of "biebernation"?