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by ChuckNorris89 2592 days ago
How do they enforce this on people wearing hijabs or other religios clothing that covers the face?
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They can just make that illegal. Burqas have already been made illegal in many countries such as France and Denmark [0].

[0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijab_by_country

Or Respro masks. Legitimate use cases for those, London has.
Hijabs do not cover the face. A niqab or burqa would, but the former are very rare in the West, and the latter virtually nonexist.
Maybe in the countryside. Go to any West EU capital and you'll see planty of niqabs and burqas.
> you'll see plenty of ... burqas

No, you won’t. The burqa is extremely rare in Western Europe. This is pointed out whenever political parties propose a burqa ban: a country would be banning something that isn’t even a significant thing there. IIRC, the total number of burqa wearers in all of France, for example, does not exceed 300.

As for niqabs, you do see one from time to time, but they certainly aren’t common against the total Muslim population, and when you do, it may be that the wearers are visitors from e.g. the Gulf states and not locals.

I see a burqa weekly and 10+ niqabs every day, and the area that I live is not what you would call a "muslim zone". It's certainly not a tourist zone, so unlikely to be non-locals.
At this point I can only assume that you are not operating with any standard scholarly definition of the word "burqa". There are different terms for the various modesty garments from the Muslim world for a reason.
He just used the terms correctly. Is your response to losing an argument to gaslight their vocabulary? That is not very sporting, even for hn.
I live in a Western EU capital. Such clothes are rare. Last time I saw one in person was while passing through Istanbul airport in 2015.
they would ask them for identification just like they did with this guy
What identification exactly? You don't have to own a passport or a drivers license in the UK, nor do we have ID cards.
most people here in the UK would have a credit or debit card on them. almost everyone have a driver's licence, but bank cards are a must even for those that dont
That does not mean they have to carry said stuff with them. Also, credit/debit cards do not store the same kind of information an ID card stores, particularly as there is no photo.

Do you really think we ought to have a society in which no one can leave his house without his dog tag?

i don't recall saying that people have to comply with having id on them at all times
As true as it is that most people have them, they're not a form of identification...
yes, but that is up to the discretion of the police officer
It's extremely normal to travel without any kind of ID, especially photo id. The main thing a lot of people carry is their driver's license, but if you don't have one of those you might very legitimately have none.
I am not saying that the police requires people to carry them, just that you pretty much need them in every day life
This is entirely untrue.
Of every person wearing a headscarf or veil? And every cyclist wearing a filter mask?
not sure, i'm not a policeman that is involved with these pilots. i am sure they are still developing policy around it