[sisu2019]

well we certaintly aren't moving towards that in Germany so I wonder where they actually are and what that looks like in reality. If everyone else is also just going to burn more coal than ever before all of this is nothing but a very expensive step backwards.

[jhayward]

What makes you say that? Take a look at the summary in another comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19913933

That looks like progress to me. Why do you say "everyone else is just going to burn more coal?"