[mirimir]

> But no "government" was involved.

Huh? This is Israel.

And some of us are mad at Google and Apple for selling such insecure-by-design junk. By that I mean that apps are trusted more than (and can't fully be controlled by) device owners.

[toyg]

I don’t think the trust policy has much to do with this. At the end of the day, an app exploit is an app exploit, and if an app can make calls, an app exploit will be able to make calls too. As long as the exploit is not allowed to burrow in the OS proper, it likely wouldn’t be any different on Linux or a BlackPhone.

[mirimir]

I guess. But as I understand it, it's much harder to lock down apps on phones than on Linux. Users can't directly control networking, for example. And have zero insight or control over the cell modem. Even doing a real firewalled VPN on smartphones is virtually impossible. And I don't believe that one can do VirtualBox or KVM or whatever virtual hosting on them.