[door5]

Another way in which rigid, patriarchal gender roles hurt men as well as women. Straight men should be far more critical of sexism and misogyny than they are. This attitude is directly tied to oppression against women in the workforce.

[LanceH]

That's a rather sexist statement telling men what they should be thinking.

[door5]

It's not sexist to point out that men historically have held disproportionate cultural, social, economic, and political power and continue to do so to this day.

[epicureanideal]

And historically men have fought wars, guarded borders, done very dangerous jobs, and so on.

Most men have not held power. A top 1% of men held power, and 99% of men did dirty and dangerous jobs at the bottom of the hierarchy, and worked worse than animals to try to provide for and protect their families.

Men give up seats on lifeboats for women, yada yada yada. Trying to frame this whole thing as "men vs women" is ridiculous, because men are so incredibly in favor of sacrificing themselves for women. Clearly other issues are involved than some "pure evil sexism".

[door5]

I didn't frame it as men vs. women. I framed it as challenging patriarchy, which is a system and ideology of male dominance and control.

[ummonk]

Should we? Judging from its actions, feminism seems to be focused on trying to get men at the top to share their power with women. While I can support this out of a sense of fairness, I see no reason to support it purely out of self-interest. It's not like having a mix of men and women at the top will benefit me.