[arcticbull]

> Using emergency services for the core of your argument is a strawman, as vastly more medical services are non-emergency or life threatening.

No, it isn't. It's the reason health insurance isn't insurance. Literally everyone will at some point come down with an emergency or life-threatening condition, and 100% of us will eventually die of one. It's not insurance if it's going to happen to you.

> Also, in the US, Kaiser is an innovation. Comparing a voluntary, private organization to a forced, tax-funded system is a false comparison.

That doesn't make it innovating. Cloning a system that works elsewhere isn't innovation. Get over the "forced tax funded" nonsense too, unless you want to relinquish all social services like education, fire, water, etc.