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by dqybh 2601 days ago
Men and women have the potential to be equally unhappy when you force a partner on them.

Also, giving women free reign is causing great inequality between men and women in their chances of having a partner and forming a family, which I believe will be problematic in the future. Very well explained by this other user: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19891412

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>Men and women have the potential to be equally unhappy when you force a partner on them.

His point wasn't about happiness for either party, it was that men simply had more societal control and rights than woman at the time arranged marriages were common - so it wasnt so much a partnership as it was one party having a huge amount of control over the other party's autonomy. That may not be the case with arranged marriages today, but I think the historical trend points in that direction.

>Also, giving women free reign is causing great inequality between men and women in their chances of having a partner and forming a family, which I believe will be problematic in the future. Very well explained by this other user:

This is just sexist drivel, to me you're a.) making frankly unwarranted generalizations about how both genders date, b.) reiterating the shirt 80/20 meme spouted by right wing incels, and c) proposing a system that takes away both party's freedom of choice with relationships because it's "unfair" to men.

>His point wasn't about happiness for either party, it was that men simply had more societal control and rights than woman at the time arranged marriages were common - so it wasnt so much a partnership as it was one party having a huge amount of control over the other party's autonomy.

Meh, in my experience (Indians I know) females in both families have the same amount of power when choosing a mate, even more power than males I'd say.

>This is just sexist

Reality is sexist. Both genders are different. That's just the way it is.

>making frankly unwarranted generalizations about how both genders date

You have statistics here, which paint a broader picture: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19601600

>reiterating the shirt 80/20 meme spouted by right wing incels

Why is my argument bad? "People I don't like say the same thing" is not an argument.

>proposing a system that takes away both party's freedom of choice with relationships because it's "unfair" to men

I didn't propose that we go back to arranged marriages, and I agree that there's no easy solution. In fact I've got nothing to propose. The fact that there's no solution doesn't mean we should just pretend there's no problem.

I should be clear, more of what I was saying was aimed at the other HN comment you linked. So when I say "you say", I am more likely referring to what the other user said.

Either way, ok there are some biological differences between the genders and reality can be sexist, but neither of those points support or justify what you are saying about men and woman.

Can you be more specific on what in the link is suppose to support your point?

And the "80/20 rule" is a bad argument because it isn't supported by actual studies or whatever as far as I know, its more of a gross misuse of the Pareto rule by right-wing incels, Redpillers, or whoever to how woman date.