[dk-]

with the exception of the very few people who know how to manage upwards, when you are the bottom rung of the totem pole org chart (and i'm not talking about developer or engineer levels), you have zero say over what comes down from 2 or 3 levels above you.

[dbbk]

I'm not suggesting they have 'say' over it. I'm saying they are aware of what they're building, and they're choosing to be complicit in it. I don't know if you can easily move to a different project within Google, but they certainly don't have to work at Google if they disagreed with it.