[jaytaylor]

Based on th emissions scandal, I'm unlikely to ever consider a VW vehicle, period. Even though most of the auto industry is also full of dirty money grubbing scum.

Not sure what the best move is, until giving it more thought I'm avoiding purchasing another vehicle.

[blattimwind]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defeat_device#Timeline

Good luck finding a car manufacturer that can deliver and isn't on that list.

[mikeash]

Is Tesla too obvious to consider?

[freehunter]

No, just somewhat irrelevant. The defeat device was installed on ICE engines to meet emissions and economy standards, standards which don't apply to electric cars. Since Telsa doesn't make any ICE cars, it's as easy to compare a bicycle to Volkswagen versus a Tesla. They're just in completely different conversations when it comes to emissions cheating, since they don't have any regulated emissions.

[mikeash]

The statement was “Good luck finding a car manufacturer....” Tesla is a car manufacturer. Seems pretty relevant to me.

[dillonmckay]

Toyota was only mentioned for an ambient temp. sensor. The intent does not seem nefarious, compared to the bulk of the other incidents.

[ody4242]

Mercedes

[blattimwind]

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44444361

[rcMgD2BwE72F]

That was in 2018, for 700+K vehicles (Mercedes C-Class, Vito and GLC) .

They were caught again this April, with the same defeat device hidden in the GLK models.

>The country's vehicle regulator has begun a formal investigation after discovering a new device in the company's Mercedes-Benz model GLK 220 CDI, the Bild am Sonntag newspaper reported.

https://www.dw.com/en/daimler-new-emissions-cheating-softwar...

How criminal…

[ody4242]

Thank you, I was not aware of this, seems like Mercedes was gaming the system as well.