[rodgerd]

1. Swarm lost, don't bother.

2. The interesting part of containers is the tooling people have built around them to make it easy to ship and run software stacks easily.

3. Building all this shit from primitives - downloading your own istio & k8s - is painful and will waste a lot of time and frustrate people.

Go get an opinionated k8s+containers solution that you can plumb into your dev tooling and will let you "commit code, spin up container fleet" easily, because that's the value: reliably increasing velocity.

OpenShift is one example I've worked with and like. There are others. Don't waste your time and money fucking around with individual bits of the stack.

[thoman23]

Thanks for the advice! Is there one opinionated offering that has solid Windows Server support? It looks like OpenShift is working towards it, but it’s not ready yet.

[whalesalad]

I’d upvote this twice if I could.