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by robbyt 2606 days ago
With the whole IBM thing going on, I bet CentOS 8 is going to take longer than usual to be released.
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Probably Red Hat Universal Base Image would be good enough for development instead of waiting for CentOS; https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/introducing-red-hat-universal...
Nice. I'm currently building an operator and this comes in handy.

Quick question: how do I differentiate between freely available and subscription-only containers on the Red Hat Registry?

If they are in the ubi namespace, they are freely available. The Container Catalog also will tell you if you can pull without a login when you look at the details of a container.
Can these containers be run hosts that are not RHEL? It seems like it's allowed, but I'm not completely sure I read that right.

I'm also looking to know what packages are available in RHEL8 that are not available to UBI containers. I'm not able to find information as to what subset of the RHEL package universe is available to UBI containers. If you're aware of information on this I'd love to be pointed to it.

The article is clear on it being allowed.
If anything, CentOS 8 will be faster since they won't have to deal with a big migration this time.

IBM has zero incentive to interfere with CentOS, it's the best advertising for RHEL they can get.

The best advertising would be releasing RHEL 8 for free for personal usage. I wonder, how much workstation licenses ($300 per year) they are selling.
I would want to use it on at least 3 computers. I don't think that developer license allows that. And registering 3 different accounts probably is abuse of that system. Also I don't really do any development for RHEL, just using it for my personal computing needs.
I have a dev license and I can register 16 systems. Your mileage may vary, but it never hurts to try.
I have a single server in my house. Mostly used to back up all my different devices and to run Plex. I run CentOS today. I am not clear on the restrictions and if I would be allowed to use the free RHEL.

With the hassle (subscriptions, restrictions etc..) it isn't worth it.

I do wish RHEL would allow it for usage that doesn't make money, like personal servers.

Do you get updates on the dev license?
I don't think so - I know the CentOS folk and they are working very hard on a release. There is no interference from IBM, partly because Red Hat hasn't been acquired yet, and partly because why would they kill a cash machine that's proven to work so well? Despite some nonsense you read online IBM are not stupid.
> why would they kill a cash machine that's proven to work so well?

You haven't been around a merger & acquisition process, I take it. It's usually like the scorpion and frog parable:

A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung the frog, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

(from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog )

And what is CentOS 8 ETA? I found nothing at CentOS web site :-( Do I miss anything?
There is no ETA, the CentOS team never gives one and they aren’t giving one for C8. This release has a lot of build structure unknowns, like appstreams, so there’s no telling how long it’ll take.
There is a telling. (Except for CentOS 6. Wonder why it delayed so much.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS#Older_version_informati...

(Expand the table for older releases.)

What is IBM doing with this?
They are buying Red Hat.
They acquired RedHat
The sale is not completed, yet.
Unlikely tbh.