[kkarakk]

You can trivially make a partition so that it shows some data when you enter one password and some other data when using another password, next. i did it when i travelled to the US in 2018 but they didn't bother checking att

I used veracrypt btw, no way to tell that there is a hidden nested partition without in depth crypto analysis of the harddrive(in which case you're probably screwed anyways)

[neilv]

I suggest that people not do this.

Were there a perception by someone that you were possibly giving a false statement or violating some other rule (or just disrespecting them), consider how much misery and expenses you might incur, long before lawyers finished debating the question.

Minimize travel through problematic places, minimize sensitive data and access that you expose when traveling through problematic places, minimize being clever.

[kkarakk]

what perception? most interactions go thusly- "Please unlock your phone/laptop and submit it for processing->i enter the -clean- password/log into my carefully normal looking user on my android phone by using the -clean- pattern" <they do something, mostly just look it over themselves> "ok fine you're free to go"

there is LITERALLY no way for them to tell that i've done anything to the data without carefully analyzing the partition(which they wouldn't know existed because i'm using boot level encryption). obviously if i had REALLY sensitive data i wouldn't carry it with me and just get it from "cloud of choice" but this is just a case of privacy(i don't want them looking at my private texts/photos/notes/media collection). And they won't.

[neilv]

It's difficult to talk responsibly about some kinds of security practices. One reason is that you don't want to tip off bad people who don't already know. Another reason is that you don't want to inadvertently give mistaken advice to good people.

[gambiting]

The problem is that us here on HN can probably take the gamble on it and bypass it either by using burner devices, bringing devices which have been wiped and then restoring them from the cloud, or using plausible deniability encryption like you have. But 99.9999% of travellers to the US don't have the knowledge or access to these methods, so it's completely insignificant in standing up to the surveillance state that US is enforcing. It feels good to say "yeah but I know a way around it" - but the problem still exists.

[kkarakk]

Well the war is already lost imo, customs gets to run roughshod over every right in the name of "national security". all we can do is protect ourselves at this point.

The tech big companies don't care to make an issue out of it and the issue is too complex(seemingly) for the every man so no progress is going to be made in the short term(5-10 years) until more tech literate people get elected. All we can do is campaign and mitigate