[_ph_]

Driving through snow and rain with the computer vision syste that Tesla uses, requires training its neural networks accordingly, which still has to be done. Driving through snow and rain with a system which requires LIDAR for operations, doesn't work.

[gamblor956]

This is something that Tesla fans don't seem to understand. LIDAR isn't an either-or proposition for anyone except Tesla. All existing LIDAR-based self-driving systems (Waymo, Uber, etc.) also use computer vision for reading signs and recognizing objects. LIDAR is used as a faster and more accurate way of determining distance and position in 3D space, with the visual data mapped into the 3d space, all in less time then it takes to finish the parallax-based positioning processing required by purely stereovisual systems like Tesla.

[dougmany]

If you make the claim that Self driving cannot be done without LIDAR, then you are implying that if the LIDAR cannot provide accurate data due to weather, the car cannot drive autonomously.

[_ph_]

Thanks, that is exactly the point I was trying to make. If you need LIDAR, you have a problem in bad weather.