[shawabawa3]

> He promised autonomous driving 2 years from 2016... Given 1 or 2 more years of incremental improvements, your tesla would be capable of driving you most places I would think

I think it's way further off than that, like, 10+, and almost certainly not without extra hardware being added to Teslas

As of today, Tesla's autopilot page says "All new Tesla cars come standard with advanced hardware capable of providing Autopilot features today, and full self-driving capabilities in the future—through software updates designed to improve functionality over time."

This claim imo is at best overly optimistic, and at worst outright fraud. I'd be surprised if they don't get sued at some point over this. (their website used to be much more explicit about promising full self-driving too)

Full self-driving is 90% edge cases. Adaptive cruise control is not a few incremental steps away from full self-driving

[natch]

>I think it's way further off than that, like, 10+, and almost certainly not without extra hardware being added to Teslas

Doubting like this is a pretty common view outside of Tesla, and we've heard it repeated many times here. They clearly disagree.

>Full self-driving is 90% edge cases. Adaptive cruise control is not a few incremental steps away from full self-driving

This they would completely agree with, as you can see from watching their recent autonomy day presentations. And they have an overwhelming lead in collecting edge case data, so... they're in good shape with that.