[hombre_fatal]

lolwut? Even in my story above where I casually walked into the hospital, they had no idea about my ability to pay until after treatment had been rendered.

And just like in the US, you can walk out the front door at that point. But unlike the US, nobody is deluded into thinking you're bailing on a $12,000 bill because you got some stitches.

I got stitches in Austin five years ago after drunkenly slipping on a party barge and gashing my head open. The whole time I was getting stitches, someone was there using scare tactics to ensure I was going to pay for them, tried to take my name and info down, suggested that maybe we should only do 3 stitches instead of 4 if I wasn't going to give them my info. Probably extra pushy because I was drunk.

They billed me thousands, I gave them the $100 in my wallet and walked out the door.

My experience in Mexico for basically everything related to healthcare has been superior to the USA, from drugs to child birth to surgery to other healthcare fields like dentistry. I'd probably rather get cancer here, too. I know a Mexican here with a brain tumor that gets operated on every year. He can walk in to a public hospital, but he prefers the private ones. His last operation, he paid $1,500 cash. I don't even want to know what that would cost in the USA. Probably the rest of your life in servitude.

The USA is nice when you have a cushy white collar job like most HNers, and that's what I don't like. I don't want to work a cushy job all my life. I want to live off my savings for years at a time, live on a beach, take risks, start things, yet not lose half my savings when I have an accident. As far as I'm concerned, the USA can't deliver that.

[JudgeWapner]

I've asked Mexicans living in the US what happens if you go to the hospital and have anecdotally been told that they will absolutely turn you away for inability to pay unless you are dying from trauma, hence why I asked.

Two storys now, you've told me of people who have actually paid for healthcare in MX. What happens if you are destitute and need gallstones removed, for example?

[hombre_fatal]

Doesn't surprise me. Look how ignorant Americans are of their own system as well. In this very thread Americans are revealing that it's possible to counter-offer at hospital checkout to save $10,000. Should be common knowledge, no?

Instead it's a highly upvoted anecdote in every HN thread about American healthcare. It goes around like fire-side superstitious oral story-telling. What's even the limit on this story? The guy above offered $1,000. What about $100 or $10? What about just leaving with a $0 bill? Since the latter is possible, is the $1,000 a meaningless gesture so we don't feel like assholes? Is this the system?

Also, Mexicans in America are often of a Mexico-hating variety since they left Mexico, and in my experience they will often pander to Americans by dumping on Mexico. Just like what you see in Americans abroad that play up the bullshit.

The destitute in Mexico go to a public hospital under the Seguro Popular program. I lived across from one.

You can get a high level overview here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Mexico -- For example, it doesn't seem like you realize that Mexico has a universal healthcare system.

[craftinator]

What happens in the US if you're homeless and have gallstones, and walk into a hospital asking for treatment?

[JudgeWapner]

go to ER after becoming violently sick, they send you to surgery within hours.

[craftinator]

Interesting. There's a large homeless population in my town, and I've always wondered how difficult it would be for them to get emergency medical care.