[systemtest]

I have a European toilet (one that is not filled to the brim with water) and I clean it by putting bleach in the bowl and leaving it overnight. I then put the toilet brush inside the drain pipe submerging it in the water/bleach mixture. By doing this I can use a single brush for years with it being brand new.

Also, when you flush and wipe the skidmarks from the bowl, use the flowing water to immediately clean the brush. Don't put it away with poo in the bristles.

[rezeroed]

Everyone talks about how advanced the Japanese toilets are. I think the Japanese are focussing on the wrong aspect - I would prefer efforts were put into toilets cleaning themselves rather than backsides.

[amelius]

> I clean it by putting bleach in the bowl

But if your neighbors flush vinegar down the toilet, it will react into chlorine in the sewer.

[pnutjam]

I thought it was ammonia and bleach that should never be mixed.

[novok]

Isn't bleach used in a lot of laundry cleaning already, so it's a bit inevitable that bleach & vinegar would end up in the sewer system?

[daemin]

What does vinegar + bleach do exactly? It sounds like something I don't want to try at home.

[benzene]

A mix of sodium acetate, oxygen, and chlorine gas results. The first two items aren't an issue, but the third... Let's just advise against mixing anything with bleach unless you have a pressing need to recreate WWI chemical warfare in your bathroom

[tropo]

It's a good thing. Bleach by itself is an inefficient disinfectant. You need a lot, which is wasteful. Adding a bit of vinegar to change the pH will make the chlorine much more available for disinfecting.

I used to keep a bottle pre-mixed. It won't last very long though, so mixing before use is better.