[krferriter]

It would take a number beyond reckoning, thousands to change our minds.

Tens of thousands.

But my lord there is no such force.

> looks at US uninsured death rate and medical bankruptcy rate.

> horn blows.

A new power is rising. Its victory is at hand.

[fragmede]

> Tens of thousands.

Not to be callous but if they're poor, is that enough?

Because 64,000 Americans died of drug overdose in 2016, and 72,000 in 2017 (200/day). (2018 stats not yet out.) 2/3rds of those are linked to the opioid epidemic, but those numbers haven't been enough to engage with the same sort of cultural change in other areas of the American psyche, as socialized healthcare would be. (NOT proffering an opinion on that here, just pointing out the body count may not be enough. Sadly.

[erentz]

Well also putting aside the terrible opioid problem which is partly economic in cause, purely on a healthcare issue we already do have thousands dying from lack of access! Its been estimated that approximately 40,000 people die due to lack of access to healthcare each year. But these are poor people so we don’t see them or hear about them and thus no revolution yet. (Although a majority of Americans want Medicare for all so somehow we just need to get representatives that represent voters not donors.)