| > - simplicity, never worked on those projects using layers of layers with a lot of magic ( like Spring ) Another strawman. There are many other frameworks other than Spring that are simple and performant and easy to deal with. > - memory consumption, never wondered why you never see Kubernetes sidecar / daemonset in Java / C#? because they use 5-10x the Go memory, no thank you using -xmx -xms 512MB for a simple API server. No one is requiring you to use -Xmx 512MB. The JVM will take up as much memory as you give it. And newer GCs will release unnused memory back to the OS much more aggressively. > - the billions GC settings that you need to try to make something work at scale ( hello Elasticsearch ) golang barely has any settings, which completely limits how it can be used. If you want to tune your code for throughput instead of latency, well you can't. The JVM gives you this option, and even moreso with ZGC and Shanendoah (TBs of heaps with ~1ms max latency). golang's gc can't even approach that. > - Don't need 200MB of library to open a file or create a REST server That's quite ridiculous. You don't even need any dependencies to open a file. And not all JVM web frameworks are Spring. There are many light weight alternatives. > - maven / graddle build system that are completely bloated, in Go if you have your vendor folder checked in ( and you should ) you just do go build . and you have your single binary It depends on how you configure them. golang's dependency management is non-existent, so no real comparison there. > - 50 line stack trace that tells nothing On the contrary, this is one of the biggest advantages of using the JVM or .NET. You get a stack trace telling you exactly where things happened. Compare that to golang where you get a single string and you have no idea which code path was taken to reach that error. > - observability imo is better in Go, it's getting better with Oracle adding stuff into OpenJDK, but it was a pain before without paying ( jvisual vm, mission control ect .. ) The JVM is the most superior platform for metrics, measurement, and monitoring. This is an established fact, and anyone claiming otherwise shows they don't have experience in this area. |