[bellerose]

It will be nice when the religious old generation with their ideology die off. The repressive outcomes restricting a better timeline from proceeding earlier is so sad to witness. Speaking as an LGBT person who has witnessed suicide among peers and when this treatment likely could help the tolls of abuse in correlation to antiquated beliefs. Thanks to the dying god.

[dang]

Religious flamewar is not welcome on Hacker News. Please do not post like this here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[maxxxxx]

"It will be nice when the religious old generation with their ideology die off. "

the new generations are already hard at work building their own oppressive ideologies.

[shrimp_emoji]

I assume you mean social justice.

You must realize it's a false equivalence: oppression in the name of a more just society is much more worthwhile than oppression in the name of magical imaginary friends. For example, our society oppressing serial killers (for the mission statement of keeping people safe) is much more worthwhile than serial killers oppressing our society (for the mission statement of indulging urges, delusions, etc.) to any reasonable person.

And, of course, I think you have to be very divorced from reality to think that social justice is, has been, or will be as oppressive a force as religion is, has been, or will be to begin with.

[dang]

Please do not use Hacker News for ideological battle. It's tedious, predictable, and always degenerates.

This is in the site guidelines. Would you mind reviewing them?

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[TKWasRight]

> oppression in the name of a more just society is much more worthwhile than oppression in the name of magical imaginary friends...

The thought behind this statement has been used historically to do some pretty bad stuff that resulted in a lot of pain and suffering...be careful that you don't build up a power structure that "works" now when you and people who think like you are in power but can be used to utterly rob the people of their freedom and liberty...its very sad to see this happening again

[voldacar]

This sort of authoritarian thinking seems to be becoming more popular of late on HN

[TKWasRight]

They fail to realize that these authoritarian measures will undoubtedly be used against them when their political rival takes power...

[fifnir]

The original comment of the guy was "when they die off" (based on the observation that 'they' are typically older people).

How is this "authoritarian" ?

Everyone took what they THINK he's saying and are running with it, without ever addressing his point.

Is putting murderers in jail authoritarianism ?

[maxxxxx]

"oppression in the name of a more just society"

That's how a lot of the worst dictatorships started.

[collias]

"oppression in the name of a more just society"

Sounds an awful lot like the worst parts of the 20th century.

[mistermann]

Do you feel a sense of hypocrisy in your words?

[tim333]

I'm not sure there's much in religion about no psychedelics?

[RhodesianHunter]

There is strong overlap between religious affiliated politics and zero tolerance for many things.

[mrob]

I've heard some Christians claim it counts as "witchcraft" (KJV translation of φαρμακεία (pharmakeia), which is specifically referring to drug use, and the origin of the English word "pharmacy"). Considering also the use of the word "entheogen" (meaning a substance that manifests a god within you) by some users of psychedelics, and historical pagan use of psychedelics, this seems reasonable.

[fsloth]

Sure there is. Churches would love to have a monopoly on providing religious experiences. Any profound experience not associated with church practice is a direct threat to church hegemony.

[jokowueu]

The good Friday experiment was done in a church . There is a nice follow up by Dr Rick doblin about that .

Many religions use psychedelics so it's generally not something outside of it