[robhunter]

> Parents are the people who raise you and are legally responsible for you.

That's your definition. It's not everyone's.

> If the offspring feels some sort of anguish over this, that's a self-inflicted harm.

So you're saying the feeling of anguish is self-inflicted? A rape victim who feels anguish is self-inflicting harm?

Clearly not.

[kelnos]

> That's your definition. It's not everyone's.

Maybe not everyone's, but it's a pretty well-accepted definition that a majority of people would likely agree with. That's often the best we can do.

> So you're saying the feeling of anguish is self-inflicted?

Not in general, but in this particular case, yes, it would be.

> A rape victim who feels anguish is self-inflicting harm?

Ah, the good old false equivalency. Please don't present arguments in bad faith.