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by CompelTechnic 2616 days ago
If I were a mid-level manager at Epic, I wonder how I would handle internal politics at this time. So many competing objectives...

1. Focus on producing novel content to keep the game interesting, mixing things up enough over weeks/months, but without killing the core mechanics.

2. Hire lots of new employees, all while knowing that the popularity bubble may burst and they may need to be laid off in the near future.

3. Give bonuses to my employees, who are working their tails off, to prevent resentment. Especially in the over-worked video game industry.

4. Acknowledge that this lucky streak is unrepeatable, and that if the game falls out of popularity, there is likely no one to blame. But when it happens, the demoralization will hit hard and the layoffs are inevitable.

5. All this, while the company reaps huge profits.

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> Give bonuses to my employees, who are working their tails off, to prevent resentment. Especially in the over-worked video game industry.

Hah.

I've know a few people on break-away titles(on the level of fortnight for an era) in my time in that industry. In most of those cases the employer or publisher had slipped in some sort of cap in royalties on a per-employee basis. So while their % cut of royalties was in the 7-figures they never saw anything above 6-figures.

Kudos on you for thinking this way but I'd be surprised if most of the people working on Fortnight are seeing more than mid FAANG compensation.

Mid FAANG level compensation goes a lot further in Cary, NC than it does in the Bay Area though. If bonuses are 3-4x salary like mentioned in the article, then most employees are making more than they would for an equivalent role at FAANG (baring stock anomalies). According to glass door senior software engineers at Epic make around ~$150K. Three to four times that is $450K-$600K, which is higher than the equivalent at FAANG according to level.fyi (L5 at Google and E5 at FB make ~$350K). This isn't justifying crunch so much as it's pointing out that Epic games seems to be paying out bonuses that are on another level. I've worked on break-away game titles and currently work at FAANG so I generally agree with you and have points of reference.
> more than mid FAANG compensation.

Do FAANG do remote? If so... what's that compensation like?

I remote for Amazon (as part of twitch but know other amazon remotes) but from my experience when other FAANG recruiters cold call me remote at those companies is discouraged. Amazon pays based on regions so my salary does not match what the ancestor post claims but would if I lived in the Bay Area.
levels.fyi says an SDE III (Senior SDE) should make $300k/yr in total compensation at Amazon working in a non-inflated city like Austin, TX.

Is that in line with your compensation?

Close enough (I’m not in the USA)
levels.fyi
so... in Miami, I make $150k working for a non-FAANG company as a senior software engineer.

If I worked for a FAANG company, I'd make $300k?

Total comp yup, but guess what.. if you are senior at a non faang company you will not be a senior at a faang company, likely L4. Even then your TC will be ~250 at the right company
so... the generally accepted knowledge of the software industry is... you will make an extra $100k/yr+ minimum if you go work for a FAANG company.

Why doesn't everybody want to work for FAANG companies then?

4a. Acknowledge that some companies have too many "lucky streaks" for them to be "lucky streaks" (e.g. Pixar, Valve, Nintendo, etc.). Attempt to build a work environment conducive to great creative work such that if there's any way to make this kind of success repeatable, at least we're putting the chances on our side.
Valve does not belong in that list. They got their lucky streak and used it to buy themselves a work environment where nobody has to be accountable to anyone in order to stay profitable. Productivity is optional at Valve. Take Steam or leave it, they don't need to make titles anymore.

At least Nintendo and Pixar create new content.

What about all the work they have done with VR, Linux, and supporting like any common game controller with most steam games?
Sounds better than the usual coding job. Meetings. Sprint plannings. Meetings. Why aren't you done your work? Are you sure this is a 3 and not 1?
Should be a 2 hour task, right? Two weeks later, why wasn't this documented?
Please, I come on HN to escape all of this.
> Give bonuses to my employees, who are working their tails off, to prevent resentment.

While bonuses can help, expecting them to prevent resentment is, in my opinion, misguided.