[Touche]

You're misreading my comment. I'm talking about general trends in programming. The 2000s were dominated by bulky server environments like Java, IIS (for .NET) and Ruby Mongrel. These were not things you started up just by running a script.

The 2010s the trends changed towards languages that specialized in faster startup times. That led to serverless.

No one said that these are new inventions. Like all trends its cyclical. I'm just pointing out the trends in order to better understand where Clojure fits in.

[tellak]

No not misreading. Ruby mongrel was the antithesis of a bulky server environment, it was a single threaded worker host generally spawned behind something like Apache or nginx or lighttpd. The need to keep mongrel workers around was more a function of the slow startup of rails then ruby or mongrel itself.

Like I said the Java (and .NET) were the exception. As far as trends... java and .net dominate enterprise and they still do. The trend is very slow in the grand scheme.

Frankly your comment seems to be conflating language issues with framework issues with “serverless” and even scripting. I don’t think there is a cogent argument to be had about overall trends with all that. Yes lambda and serverless are a thing but half the whole world still runs on JavaEE or ASP behemoths