[allday]

> Fact of the matter is if it weren't for plastics, the everyday products that we all consume would either cost way more, or be so expensive that quite a few of us would never get to use them.

That's fine. When the choice is not having some luxury items vs total biosphere collapse, I'll side with the former. I guess you'd rather keep sipping your Diet Coke while the world burns.

[rootusrootus]

As soon as you made it a personal, moral issue, you lost the argument entirely. If the goal is to get everyone to adopt good habits for the environment, you're going to have to address price and convenience.

[allday]

"I wish they would have addressed the price and convenience issues and not made it such a question of morality", I say, as I eat a handful of dirt and survey the barren lifeless landscape around me.

[beat]

Food is not a luxury item.

[croon]

I've been drinking almost exclusively tap water the better part of my life. I suppose my luxury is drinkable tap water. So let's aim for that for everyone instead.

[pushpop]

Food doesn’t always need to be wrapped in plastics. For example I’ve seen bananas wrapped in clear plastic bags. Why is that when bananas come with their own “wrappers”?

[bg4]

Diet Coke isn't food.

[ceejayoz]

Some foods absolutely are. Foie gras, black truffles, Dom Perignon, endangered tiger meat, etc.

[beat]

That's missing the point. The point is that the introduction of plastic packaging has made food far safer and more accessible for billions of people.