[4thaccount]

"Rust is the new APL,like I said"

I know you're trying to compare it to APL as that language mostly died off and is thus obscure, but I think the analogy is a little off.

While APL is weird, it is actually really easy for me (someone with less than 15 hours playing with the language in total over the past few years) to code up some basic scripts a lot easier than something like C++.

I'm being absolutely serious too. C++ is pretty low level and as a Python coder I feel like I'm sinking in quicksand with everything required to do something simple. APL is basically built around passing arrays of numbers or strings to weird symbols that operate on the whole array. This means I can do text processing with only a few symbols and a library function (and all interactively) where C++ requires lots of boilerplate and debuggers and compilation and pointers. In short, APL seems to be a lot less complicated than both Rust and C++ in my opinion and most using it have very little formal programming experience and have no problem picking it up from what I've read.

I know what you were essentially trying to say though.

[ajross]

I picked APL because it matches the "WTF cray cray" aesthetic that Rust's syntax presents to new users. I can see an argument that Ada is the right analogy if you're going for pure complexity.

And yes, Fortran, APL, Ada (also Modula-2 & Oberon, Smalltalk and a bunch of other forgotten languages presented as the Next Big Thing at the time) are all uniformly simpler than either C++ or Rust. The modern world is a more complicated place and programming tools have kept up.