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by jplayer01 2618 days ago
... you're literally calling me racist for being concerned about a country that actively stifles dissent, doesn't have free press, and does things like implementing a great firewall that allows them absolute control over their "part" of the internet? Are you kidding me? It's nice that you've found a way to sound smart while underhandedly dismissing everything I've said as nothing but ignorance and misguided, uninformed fear, but it doesn't change geopolitical reality.

"Even though we all know China is a country and not a person, people often personify the abstract entity of _the whole of China_ as “wanting” things or having "values" or being "happy to do anything". In this case, and in this context, "China" as a concept can be entirely reduced to the Chinese government, and we do know exactly what their values are (entirely antithetical to everything that I listed), how they behave and what their interests are (hint: None of it is in our best interests). Hell, at this point, we could probably reduce it down to President Xi Jinping. Depending on context, "China" could also mean the corporations that represent China abroad, which are almost always state-sponsored, owned and subsidized anyway (they just hide it pretty damn well), and the end point is, again, the Chinese state.

As for the idea that a country can't "want" anything or have "values" ... that's just not true. I'm not even sure how you can say that as a fact, even though countries often behave in goal-oriented ways to get what they want - and what they want is generally entirely dependent on its government, its economy, its population, etc. A country isn't a separate concept from these things - it is these things. Do you know what we call a country's values? Culture.

You've essentially said a whole bunch of nothing while addressing none of my actual concerns. It's disingenuous and deceitful and I'm not sure why you're trying to paint my comment in such a bad light in such a way.