[dsabanin]

I agree on both points. Yet disagree that you can expect to be taught while being payed and complain.

[brandall10]

I agree that you can't expect anything. The job is the job, you're there to give value, not take it.

But, if you end up at an org that has their stuff together - if you're coming from nothing maybe you show a high aptitude for programming - it is something that should be an aspect of the experience.