[rando444]

AMP allows Google to see exactly how you interact with every page on the internet.

Just from the text of the pages you visit they can build a profile around you. What your interests are, how much of an article you're likely to finish, whether you're the type of person to highlight text as you read, etc.

Unless you live on an island with a poor satellite connection AMP is useless as anything more than a corporate user data collection tool.

[gregable]

AMP documents don't share user data with Google, which can be trivially seen by inspecting the network events that the page generates.

If the publisher chooses, they can send logging to Google Analytics, but this is not part of AMP.

The typical argument otherwise is that the AMP javascript is loaded from Google's cache, however these javascript resources allow for a very long cache lifetime (1yr if the page came from the Google Cache), so relatively few page loads will actually end up fetching them from the network for most users.

Edit: These resources are also on cookieless domains.

[Mindwipe]

> The typical argument otherwise is that the AMP javascript is loaded from Google's cache, however these javascript resources allow for a very long cache lifetime (1yr if the page came from the Google Cache), so relatively few page loads will actually end up fetching them from the network for most users.

Christ this is thin as a privacy argument.

[codedokode]

> AMP documents don't share user data with Google, which can be trivially seen by inspecting the network events that the page generates.

Is there anything preventing Google from changing this later?

[andrerm]

No, if Google can change the way web works from day one they can change anything they want. Don't forget Google is killing imap and dns already. Why not http to?

[codedokode]

Also, Google explicitly states that it is collecting data in AMP Viewer [1]:

> The Google AMP Viewer is a hybrid environment where you can collect data about the user. Data collection by Google is governed by Google’s privacy policy.

I assume they collect information from HTTP request the browser sends when requesting an AMP page.

[1] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/guides/about-amp#a...

[cced]

> AMP documents don’t share user data with Google

They might not now, but could ‘t Google start creating unique URLs on each page, allowing them to track you that way?

[meowface]

They can already do that, and are doing so, through Search, Analytics (maybe), ads, etc. That war is long lost.

[duozerk]

They can't if you block all their shitty domains and don't use google services. Things that many privacy-conscious users do.

[dwild]

We are talking about their AMP cache. If you don't use Google Service, except if you like to prepends their amp cache URL before your links, you'll never get there.

Their AMP cache happens only on their search service. They already know which links you click... having an AMP cache on top doesn't give them MORE information than they already get. The use of that cache also make sure the website doesn't get more information because it's preloaded.

[duozerk]

That's not entirely true though, is it ? any link shared on reddit, or here, on on any social network by a chrome user can be an amp one.

[snaky]

If (or when) the share of that privacy-conscious users will rise, Google might motivate webmasters to compile GA scripts in the main JS script, and considering pretty much any website now a days just doesn't show content with no Javascript enabled, it would be much harder to avoid.

[duozerk]

I browse mostly without javascript on and that's not true; easily more than half of websites work just fine without it, and that number goes far up if you accept some lack of features. Though there are some that indeed don't work at all.

Although your point is well taken that there could be ways to sneakily track users eventually despite the aforementioned measures, and potentially even without javascript being required (though I doubt that share of privacy-concious users will ever raise significantly - most people simply don't care).

[gsich]

No excuse.