[DoreenMichele]

and nurses work long hours with lower pay

The Longer The Shifts For Hospital Nurses, The Higher The Levels Of Burnout And Patient Dissatisfaction

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3608421

Nurses seek to reduce long hours and fatigue

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2015/02/01/nurse-...

January 31, 2012 — State laws against mandatory overtime hours for nurses are effective, researchers reported in an article published online August 29, 2011, in Nursing Outlook.

"Nurses routinely work long shifts, often as long as 12 hours straight," said Carol Brewer, PhD, RN, FAAN, a professor at the School of Nursing, University at Buffalo, New York, in a news release. "These laws were intended to prevent hospitals from piling mandatory overtime on top of such shifts, a practice that research shows can increase the likelihood of mistakes."

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/757834

[saiya-jin]

As a doctor you are 1 mistake away from potentially killing somebody, which can easily end up you being in jail, your license permanently removed and life ruined. And lets be honest, most doctors have killed by negligence/mistake in their lives, this is pure statistics and reality that few want to admit. After screwup everybody just hopes family/hospital will not investigate and move on.

Treatment of medical staff, mainly doctors is pretty ridiculous compared to easy life we (most of us) have in IT. What I mean by example - the by far the biggest employer - university hospital is forcing employers overtime, nightshifts which are properly debilitating, and not 1, but easily 4-5 in a row. At the end of such a row, the doctor feels drunk and sluggish when discussed with.

Which 3rd world country do you think I discuss? One of the biggest hospitals in Switzerland.

I have tons of stories from friends of us - like cantonal hospital in Bern, where chef of whole department set up the badge-sharing system that forced his doctors to share badges over weekend with others who didn't work,so they could do more overtime (unpaid of course) because the Swiss laws prohibited them from doing so, and entrance badge system was programmed accordingly). You don't want to participate, good bye (also to your career in whole country). 2018 story.

My advice - stay healthy, just don't go to hospital unless you have to. At the end, just drop dead.

[DoreenMichele]

From my second link, above:

with researchers likening the performance of someone awake for at least 17 hours to that of a drunk person.

those who worked shifts 12.5 hours or longer were three times more likely than others to make an error in patient care.

From your comment:

My advice - stay healthy, just don't go to hospital unless you have to. At the end, just drop dead.

The natives in Africa put a stop to the Ebola epidemic with a few policies to limit the spread. For starters:

1. If you got sick, they quarantined you. You were not to leave your hut. They would leave food on your doorstep. If three days of food piled up, they burned the hut to the ground without going inside to check if you were really dead or not.

2. They told their people "Don't go to the white man's hospital." Because you would show up with something fixable, like a broken leg, and die of Ebola contracted at the hospital.

They also put up road blocks to control who could come into their territory. There may be a few other things I'm not remembering.

I have a serious medical condition. I haven't seen a doctor in years. When I was seeing a doctor for it, the waiting room was always full of sick people and it was one of the more hazardous things I did. I sometimes spoke with people online who told stories that (for example) their kid with the same condition as me had picked up MRSA in their last hospital stay.

We need some better models. The current system seems inherently flawed in important ways.

[C1sc0cat]

Id be more worried about tired medical staff missing things like detecting sepsis.