[gist]

> Even without Google or Apple, they police have the cell service providers

Important to keep in mind that additional information provides corroboration at least in the mind of the jury and also detracts from issues regarding the information.

This is illustrated by one of those Datelines' (or 48 Hours don't remember) that I saw recently. They exhumed a body to determine if the deceased was buried with contact lenses on. They then had some expert do tests with pigs to determine that it was really a contact lens and not something else. It was very clear right off that it was (anyone who has worn contacts would know this and additionally they even were marked with numbers on the lens). But the expert still went to this long and drawn out trouble (buried dead pig's eyes with lense on) that they clearly didn't have to do. Reason? You spend more time in front of the jury with a long story and it detracts from the problems with the story to begin with (someone iirc said 'she never goes to bed with contact lenses').

Similar and unrelated is restaurant food. Put a lot of vegtables on the plate and a fancy sauce swirl to detract from the small piece of meat or fish you have given the diner.

[caymanjim]

They need to bend over backwards with evidence because terrible shows like CSI and NCIS have convinced jurors that crime labs can perform magic and that they should acquit despite a preponderance of evidence unless there's a giant stack of lab reports and a manic pixie dream nerd testifying.

[LuciferAdvocate]

They should. Preponderance of evidence is for civil charges, criminal charges require proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

[hopler]

The standard in criminal law is "beyond a reasonable doubt", which is a higher standard than "preponderance if evidence" which only satisfies civil claims.

[hopler]

Vegetables are good food. Swirls looks nice. These are things people enjoy, not distractions.

[gist]

I did not say 'only reason'. Of course there could be other benefits. And I am guessing we are not talking about the same restaurant experiences either.

[maimeowmeow]

veggies are real cheap compared to meats. 1 pound of meat or seafood is 4-30 dollars wholesale versus 1-5 dollars a pound for veggies, so after markup, what are most dishes going to contain? Fillers: carbs and veggies.

[JohnFen]

> veggies are real cheap compared to meats.

That depends a lot on where you live, and what quality of veggies and meat you're talking about.

What's cheap is cereals.