[reaperducer]

"People should update their software to the latest versions! And they should switch browsers to use one that supports my nonstandard features!" Oh, yes? Well they don't.

And as long as Microsoft keeps shipping IE11, we're all doomed. Office drones aren't going to switch to something better until they're forced to.

I can't believe Windows 10 still has IE11.

[bshacklett]

Windows 10 doesn't have IE 11 as the primary browser, and I'm not sure it ever has.

IE is there for compatibility in enterprise environments. There are a lot of large organizations which still rely on older versions of SAP, Oracle and IBM applications, plus whatever ungodly niche vertical apps or in-house garbage was written back in the 90s.

Microsoft has to cater to this environment because it's been the lifeblood of the company for ages.

It's not all doom and gloom, though. I've had experience in some very large organizations, lately, which prefer Chrome. The landscape is beginning to change, but it will be a while, still, before evergreen browsers are the norm in the corporate world.

[xeeeeeeeeeeenu]

>Windows 10 doesn't have IE 11 as the primary browser, and I'm not sure it ever has.

LTSC/LTSB (LTS) versions of Windows 10 don't ship with Edge and it's not possible to install it. The same goes for Windows Server 2016 and 2019.

Microsoft made it impossible for enterprises to upgrade to Edge.

[Aeolun]

Office drones don’t have a choice either. What browser to use is fully based on inertia.

If there are 20 products that work in IE11, you won’t switch to Chrome just for your 21 product.