[linuxftw]

I believe it was an outright lie, an effort to solicit deposits and lure people into a bait-and-switch of higher priced models. All evidence to date suggests I'm right. Of course, they're never going to come out and say 'we fooled you' but I don't know what level of evidence people need before they reach the conclusion for themselves.

[b_tterc_p]

And what evidence would that be

[pyify]

"All evidence to date suggests I'm right".

Can you give us some examples of all of this evidence?

[linuxftw]

The evidence that 3 years later, no base models have actually been delivered, those that were finally able to order them were bait and switched into upgrading or face even longer delivery timelines?

When you see a $35000 brand new Tesla actually for sale, please let the rest of the world know. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27120534/tesla-model-3-li...

Unless you have some other definition of bait and switch.

[legitster]

'Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence."

[gowld]

Deception and stupidity are merely implementation details of untrustworthiness. It doesn't matter.

[mhermher]

Incompetence? Isn't Elon a genius?