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by FakeComments
2622 days ago
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> > offering to register them to vote sans additional proof of citizenship > You are not automatically registered to vote just because you have a WA driver license. I find it interesting you didn’t actually critique what I said. In my experience, that’s common with people who hold your position. There was also no attempt to reply with actual facts: just more fallacious arguments when they were called out about making an unsupported claim and ad hominem — > Because there’s no significant amount of fraud occurring that ID requirements would fix, and ID requirements are often made to unfairly disenfranchise certain groups. That’s what HN groupthink is: unsupported facts and ad hominems in support, downvotes and strawman responses to people who disagree. |
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> issuing them IDs and offering to register them to vote sans additional proof of citizenship
Washington state doesn't "offer to register you to vote based on you getting a Washington Driver's License". WA DOL on Voter Registration:
"You will be required to show that you are:
- A citizen of the United States.
- A legal resident of Washington State and have lived at your address for at least 30 days before the election.
- At least 18 years old when you vote.
- Not under Department of Corrections supervision for a Washington felony conviction.
and
- Not disqualified from voting due to a court order."
So your statement that Washington is "offering to register people to vote "sans additional proof of citizenship" is factually false.
So, absolutely did I critique what you said. It's wrong.
Washington's Drivers License does not meet federal standards because it doesn't require citizenship or residency _to be issued_, not because they're registering or offering to register non-citizens to vote (because the Fed governments solution to that would be to ignore that actual issue, and just say it doesn't meet Fed ID requirements, sure).
"Fallacious arguments" - I quoted the WA DOL. Where is your source that the refusal to accept the state DL federally is due to "voter registration of non-citizens"? As it is, Washington ALSO offers the Enhanced Drivers License which _does_ meet federal requirements, showing citizenship proof, primarily used for land travel to Canada.