[sametmax]

> Well you see, I would hate to live in a world where it became socially acceptable to talk about human sexuality ... > I think it is a very personal subject, and maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like you'd get less freedom in your sexual life if everybody was talking openly about it.

I think this highligh the problem: in our society, sex is something special. It should not be.

Sex is like eating. It's a normal, regular part of life. There is nothing special about it. It's nice, it's fun, it's good for you.

The fact most people see it differently is a big blocker, and creates so many issues in humanity.

[JoeAltmaier]

There's another school that says sex can be much more than eating. To reduce it to a normal activity is cynical. Yes, like pizza, even when its bad, its good. But it can be much more than just 'good'.

So go ahead and talk about it like its just tennis or something. I talk about stopping at McD's too. Not very interesting, nothing special.

[sametmax]

Some people think collecting pokemon cards is special. We love to do that. Our kids are special. Ou god is special. Our situation is so special. This separates us, and there is not need for special when the whole universe is already astonishing in every ways.

It's not cynical, to call it cynical is just comming from the point of view of jugement. I would not juge breathing, why the hell would I juge sex ?

Seen a thing for a simple, enjoyable part of life is the very opposite of cynical. It's inclusive. It's embracing existance. It's also sane to not take things too seriously. Life has enough challenge to not had artificial difficulties.

[JoeAltmaier]

I guess some folks have never experienced what it can be, then. To only see it as a simple, enjoyable part of life (like pokemon) diminishes what it can be by orders of magnitude.

But go ahead, continue sipping from the cup of life! That's all it will be for some folks I guess.

[sametmax]

I've heard this one about so many things. I deeply and honestly followed people saying it to see what they meant. Spirituality, sex, drug, philosophy, meditation, human relationships, sport, games, love, traveling...

The link between all of them is how much they over sell their experience and pretend they have access to something unique other people just don't get.

[JoeAltmaier]

Or, just a suggestion, maybe it's not happened to everybody yet.

[tuesdayrain]

That is a pretty disturbing view of sex and I would hate to live in a society where it was common to see it as nothing special. I think anything considered taboo is naturally much more special.

[sametmax]

Pooping is taboo. Periods are taboo. Being gay is taboo. Psychedelic are taboo. Death is taboo. Money in my country is taboo.

Hell, for a long time, things like tattoos, breast feeding, and psychoanalysis were taboo.

In some culture, women have to hide behind religious clothing because their body is taboo.

A taboo is just a symptom of a society being sick. Taboo get people frustrated, violent, judgemental, unhappy.

It's in the same category as a dogma, as a basic "bad" or "good" label, as a blindness faith or a never criticized tradition. It's inertia. It's simplistic.

But the funny thing is... taboo is nothing special either. Just human nature.