[metaphyze]

Both GM and Ford have been hiring a lot of software engineers in Detroit in the past few years. The problem is that they need NASA-style software engineers (crazy-anal nit-picky consider-every-possibility style engineers)--not engineers from the regular software industry. If your car crashes, you can't just reboot it.

[PorterDuff]

It seems to me that there's less of that than there used to be.

In days of yore, I shipped quite a few ROM-based products. Bugs were frowned upon.

[vonmoltke]

That, and they pay shit relative to the regular software industry.