[claudius]

Are you prepared to cover the full costs of your "driving enthusiam"? Or do you wish for society to subsidize your personal enjoyment, comfort and lazyness at the cost of great financial, environmental and health costs to everyone else?

[lagadu]

That's a lot of hyperboles and ad-hominem going on there.

[claudius]

There’s no hyperboles there. Cars, and ICE cars in particular, cause extreme health concerns from particles both exhausted and rubbed of from the tires. The vast majority of deaths in transportation are due to cars, and speeding ICE cars in particular. A primary cause of climate change (which in turn threatens the existence and/or sustenance of billions of people) is again the use of cars, in particular ICE cars, for personal transportation. Without those and the associated need for large amounts of otherwise unused spaces, many things could be done much more efficiently.

Given that the GP personally regretted the end of ICE cars, it seems not unreasonable to ask about their other feelings as well?

[frosted-flakes]

> Cars, and ICE cars in particular, cause extreme health concerns from particles both exhausted and rubbed of from the tires. The vast majority of deaths in transportation are due to cars, and speeding ICE cars in particular.

Except for tailpipe exhaust, electric cars are no different in this regard, so I'm not sure why you've singled out cars with internal combustion engines.

[salawat]

The world won't be going electric overnight. It can't physically speaking, and the power density of batteries is nowhere near where it would need to be to phase out internal combustion engines.

Construction equipment, farm equipment, loading and transportation equipment, lawn equipment etc... Still need compact, powerful power plants. Fossil fuels and petroleum is likely not going anywhere either. It's still needed for a lot of off-road uses, and as industrial precursors.

To the "do you expect society to subsidize yadda yadda" crowd:

Do not be so quick to evoke the power of society for or against your favorite/least favorite things. The United States is a blatant anomaly in terms of the proliferation of high tech infrastructure, given. But that has come as the byproduct of over 150 years of gradual industrialization.

Frankly I don't see ICE cars, or ICE car enthusiasts as as much a problem as poor city planning, over-emphasis on a consumerist lifestyle to fuel the economy, and an increasingly divisive and market subverted political system.

Besides which, speed does not correlate with deaths. Difference in speed does. If you want traffic related deaths to go away, stop looking at the enthusiasts, who are paying attention, and start looking at the ones who aren't paying attention.