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by threatofrain 2632 days ago
Ultimately we cannot secure content without being able to look at it (encryption is the problem). We need to be able to look at what the kids are looking at if we want to control what information gets to them.

DNS is a band-aid solution with side effects.

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Palo Alto firewalls do decryption on the fly should you want to look at this. It can all be logged with short or long logging.

Worked in your arena for 5 years. Kids are creative and crafty. We had kids getting around the MDM/DNS blocks by changing the DNS/Proxy settings in their iPads. This is not easily overcome with existing MDM solutions AND letting the iPad be usable. BYoD is a whole different animal since you cannot legally "touch" their devices, you have to implement the federally-mandated blocks at the infrastructure level. Kids can use VPNs all day and there is nothing that can be done in reality.

At a previous job, believe it or not, I worked with a client with almost a zero budget who was having massive issues with malware/ads in their public space that offered free computer use. Being the budget was minimal (less and $100 to fix), I deployed two Pi-holes and taught the "admin" how to manage it. Cheap, effective, works. I set the whole thing up to fail back to the network's DNS should the Pi-holes fail. Still running almost two years later.

The Pi-hole can block about any content you would like it to block with almost zero-configuration. Easy to block a single domain or with a new rule set subscription.

Band-aid solution that worked pretty well. Very cheap to implement, widely supported and used by many schools.

Our student's data was still private (no emails or passwords being decrypted) and we did the filtering only based on the domain name. It also didn't require an expensive appliance that would be need if did the filtering based on SNI.

A student who really wants to see "the bad" on the internet isn't scared off by blocking some DNS/VPN/proxy traffic. This is wishful thinking.

The easiest work-around for students who want to show their mates some "cool porn" is to just save it at home. Or connect to the free wifi of <random shop> in reach.

But then it's not the school's fault.
When you allow BYOD you give up the ability to control the client, and you allow the mess of kids bringing their family computers to school, as well as this difference where other kids bring their own much-better computer.