[omot]

I'm always irked by hns attitude towards women leaders. There so many comments trying to discredit her or trying to shame her for self promotion. In general, there's always a sexist undertone, and I feel like the anonymity of hn brings the sexism of the tech community to the surface.

In regards to Marissa, I personally believe that the Glass Cliff is real. It's inspiring that she was integral in creating one of the most valuable company in the valley. Likewise, I find it impressive that she was able to climb the political ladder of a generally sexist industry.

[ckastner]

> I'm always irked by hns attitude towards women leaders. There so many comments trying to discredit her or trying to shame her for self promotion.

HN demonstrably shows the same attitude towards male leaders as well. Elon Musk is the poster child of this.

This has nothing to do with the gender of the leader, but rather an aversion to self-promotion, hyping, or any other exaggeration of the self or one's accomplishments.

[shaki-dora]

Nobody has ever accused Musk of outsourcing his dry cleaning when discussion his workload.

[ckastner]

According to the HN comment search below, nobody has ever accused Mayer of that either, so what is the point of your comment?

[shaki-dora]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19620176

[treis]

>In regards to Marissa, I personally believe that the Glass Cliff is real

The glass cliff didn't make her buy Tumblr for 1.1 billion dollars only for it to be essentially worthless a few years later.

I also think people are a bit harsh on what situation Yahoo was in. They were still profitable, had a ton of users, and plenty of cash in the bank. Sure, it was being left behind but there was plenty of juice there to do something to become relevant again. In the five years she was CEO there's not really anything you can point to as a success. It raises the question of how important she was to the string of successful products that she headed at Google.

[GuiA]

It raises the question of how much runaway success is due to pure luck, rather than repeatable execution.

[malvosenior]

This has nothing to do with her being a woman (other that that's the only notable thing about her hence she gets a lot of press over it). When was the last time you saw HN say something nice about Terry Semel? She was the final failed CEO of a failing tech company and she executed some really awful policies along the way. That matched with her outsized support from the press explains 100% of the ire toward her you see here.

[darkpuma]

I don't think I've ever seen anything but glowing praise for Lisa Su on hacker news.

Then again, HN seems to discuss her less than Marissa Mayer. Why is that? She's far more successful. When I think great women leaders in tech, she's the first I think of. Anti-hardware bias maybe? Or maybe it's a valley bias. After all, she came out of MIT rather than Stanford and lives in Austin rather than San Francisco. I don't know, what do you think?

[Udik]

Maybe she's just more private, or less attractive and fashionable? However, when I read comments about her on HN they were enthusiastic.