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> Hong Kong, at least, is Chinese and always have been

That doesn't mean anything. Does it belong to the Chinese in the Communist party? Or the Chinese that live in Hong Kong?

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You’re thinking Democratically. Geopolitically, HK belongs to China, the historically established state of which Beijing is the capital.

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So do you think Hong Kong 'belonged to Japan' when that was the realpolitik?

Beijing might control HK now, but by acknowledging the tyrant's claim, we give them power.

Beijing is the capital of the PRC, not 'China'. There are many Chinas, the PRC does not have a monopoly on the name.

Hong Kong belongs to it's people.