[sbr464]

Just a thought—Couldn’t there be a service In front of ~5-1,000 different vpn services that would locally (depending on your subscription level) send each request to a random list of vpn providers (like a random dns provider? Somewhat complicating/obscuring the issue that arises with centralizing your traffic to single endpoint?

[denschub]

It's called Tor. And you don't even need a subscription for that.

[sbr464]

Although I’m familiar with Tor, my thinking was packaging that concept in a better way, similar to how vpn services market themselves.

[discordance]

You want to sell TOR? - please don't.

[sbr464]

I thought with tor you still connect to a single gateway and all traffic is sent to that remote endpoint? Or is it done locally?

[denschub]

Tor, originally from "The Onion Router", works by routing your traffic through multiple Tor nodes. Like an onion, each node only peels off one layer and passes the packet on to whoever is addressed on that layer. Each node only knows the details about the next node. Eventually, the packet will hit an "Exit-Node", at which point it will be routed via the internet through the endpoint, but it's not a single route.

And while that does not change for every request (that would be highly unpractical), all Tor clients offer you a very quick "get a new route" with just one click.

[mirimir]

Just to clarify, it's Tor clients that select which relays (entry guard, middle and exit) to use in circuits. Also, each relay in a circuit knows (or at least, could know, if it wanted to) both source and destination. But with three-relay circuits, no relay know both user identity and destination.

Also, by default, Tor changes circuits at 10-minute intervals.

[ec109685]

If you hit an onion link, then that doesn’t even require an exit node.

[sbr464]

Thanks for clarifying.