[vlehto]

If we talk about future, everything is random stuff pulled from someones ass.

Future cannot be researched, calculated or predicted. You can just be worried about stuff and bet on some solutions to give your children a decent place to live in.

[lispm]

> Future cannot be researched, calculated or predicted

Sure it can. Otherwise you wouldn't know about the effects of climate change.

> You can just be worried about stuff and bet on some solutions to give your children a decent place to live in.

Use a bicycle. Don't fly. Don't make vacation on a cruise ship. Don't buy flown in goods. Don't eat meat. Don't reproduce. Recycle stuff. Get solar onto your roof. Heat with electricity from non-fossil fuels. Don't use a car.

[vlehto]

>Otherwise you wouldn't know about the effects of climate change.

Well actually we don't know. We have maybe a sophisticated guess at best. Knowledge requires data, that by definition cannot be gathered from future. At least not before someone invents a time machine.

Even the best forecasts we can make about anything are very poor. Look at a simple things like construction budgets or projected congestion of particular traffic system upgrade. They are usually off by magnitude of order. And this is well documented by Kahnemann.

In regards of atmosphere, it might be that IPCC has overestimated the whole thing with a fat margin. Or it might be we are all dead no matter what we do.

>Don't reproduce.

If I don't do that, then I'm not going to give a shit about this phenomena anyhow.

>Heat with electricity from non-fossil fuels.

Where I'm from, that's impossible without the whole state going non-fossil fuel. Which again is practically impossible without nuclear.

Heating accounts probably about half of my carbon footprint. And with rough winters that's a lot. I've already minimized everything else.

[lispm]

> If I don't do that, then I'm not going to give a shit about this phenomena anyhow.

I fear that any savings in CO2 emissions will be useless, due to an increasing world population.

> Heating accounts probably about half of my carbon footprint

Heating, travel, transportation, industrial production, production of chemicals, production of concrete/cement ( https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46455844 ), food production, ... all those need to be addressed across the whole spectrum of climate-active gas - not just Co2, but also Methan and others.

[vlehto]

>I fear that any savings in CO2 emissions will be useless, due to an increasing world population.

Not having kids would help, but suicide would help more.

Many things matter, but big things matter more than small things. Electricity, traffic, industrial production and heating are all big things. All linked to energy production.

[lispm]

> big things matter more than small things

Not if the small things come in large numbers.