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by papermill 2633 days ago
This is simply not true. Everyone in the US knows about Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc. They are culturally significant institutions. So much so that people use "MIT" as a stand in for "excellence". "MIT of X".

"kind of like the M.I.T. [sic] for magic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_in_popular_culture

If your gf didn't think much of your school, maybe it's not as "elite" as you wish it were. Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc are as elite as you can get in the US ( and the world ).

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It's one of the three schools you just listed. Don't know what to tell you.

There are people who are different from us. I think your assumption that a large percentage of people think or believes the same things as us is a bit shaky. Sure maybe there are references to those schools in popular culture but can you really assume: 1. Popular culture is actually popular for the majority of Americans? 2. People consume all of popular culture? 3. People pay attention to the details in popular culture. Someone might say a line in a movie and not everyone is going to understand it nor is everyone going to look it up in Wikipedia or Google. 4. Even if people paid attention to the detail, are you sure that they understood it the same way?

It's not as if my GF haven't heard of those schools. It's just that she didn't think they are particularly elite. In her words, she thought my school is the New England version of Notre Dame. A good or even a great school but she didn't think it is "elite".

> Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc are as elite as you can get in the US ( and the world ).

I'm not too sure about that, especially when it's applied to the world. "elite school" is an idea that lives in the heads of people. It's not an actual club that grants special privileges. There's the Ivy League but that's an athletics association and you left out most of the schools in it from your list.

This may be true in the kind of upper-middle class bubble where people discreetly brag about going to Yale, but if you stop random people on the street and ask them to free-associate about MIT most of the time you won't get anything except some vague understanding that nerds go there, although now the Big Bang Theory may have shifted that kind of common cultural cachet to Caltech.