[inferiorhuman]

If those are your concerns, then the fact we are adding releases to Elixir core in the upcoming version should solve most of them.

I've articulated my experience in my previous reply to you, but I'll pose this response: that it's taken so long for Elixir to come up with a manageable deployment story makes it seem like deployments are an afterthought with Elixir. If things are better now that's great, but as an ops guy by trade I think that deployments are one of the most important user stories out there.

I suspect one of the reasons people are gravitating towards Rust for things it's not particularly well suited for (like web apps with a ton of business logic) is that the Rust team focuses on important user stories like:

- tooling (human readable error messages, dependency management, portability)

- deployments

- IDE user experience

These are things that Elixir and Phoenix aren't focused on. For example I still get the occasional email from github about the poor souls trying to use distillery on FreeBSD so I don't buy that things have improved that much.

[pmarreck]

The Elixir tooling is fantastic, not sure where you pulled that one out from. IDE's are unnecessary cruft to the point that I'd call it a language-design smell if you really felt compelled to use one; VSCode is great. Deployments are trivial if you use Gigalixir (which has a free tier) and will be easier in the general case going forward.