[generated]

It is possible to create value and not profit.

Economic value exceeds or matches market value. Market value drives revenue. Profit is a function of revenue and cost.

These are well defined terms; please be careful saying things like "If they aren't making a profit they aren't creating value." It detracts from your otherwise strong argument.

If that line were true, non-profit organizations wouldn't exist.

[roenxi]

Now that you have pointed it is obvious that, say, a non profit can create value without creating a profit or that there might be externalities.

But we aren't really talking about that sort of concern here, we are talking about for-profit companies that aren't doing research and any externalities are tenuous.

It is completely unreasonable to say that such a company could be creating value. They are clearly a wealth transfer mechanism from who-knows-where to consumers. It doesn't make sense if it isn't malinvestment. People love to pull out hypothetical externalities to justify things they like that just aren't worth doing; they aren't going to justify running a corporation at a loss.