[mdolon]

This was both helpful and inspiring to read, thank you for sharing.

  - after thousands of lines of code, we realized our Edtech startup did not have product market fit,
  so we pivoted to building a Mixpanel competitor focused on segmentation*
  - 6 product iterations later, nothing was working. We were trying to decide between a group trip 
  planner and what eventually became Segment. It was a dark time.*

I'm curious.. when validating ideas, when do you know it's time to move on?

[calvinfo]

Thank you! I'd agree with the other commenters that Peter's talk is the best place to go for hearing the in-depth story: https://blog.ycombinator.com/peter-reinhardt-on-finding-prod...

I'd say more generally that finding product-market-fit felt much more like a 'pull' than a 'push' motion. We had been trying for 8 months to convince even a single user to rely on the product we were building earlier, and it just wasn't sticking.

When we launched today's product, we started seeing a lot more pull from customers. We solved one problem that other products did not, which prompted a bunch more requests from customers.

[jackt89]

https://blog.ycombinator.com/peter-reinhardt-on-finding-prod...

Read transcript at 4:48

[jgill]

Direct link: https://blog.ycombinator.com/peter-reinhardt-on-finding-prod...

[mdolon]

Great find! Definitely provides a lot more context