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by Waterluvian 2643 days ago
I think what's most telling is what you did after that meeting. Did you quit and go work elsewhere?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think companies should be so short sighted as to nickel and dime employees. But your one true source of leverage is to actually get up and leave.
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flukus 2643 days ago
There's a lot more leverage than that depending on the particulars of the story. It may have been OP that identified a saving that could be made and their leverage is a future unwillingness to identify such things. Maybe they'll stop questioning things and "code to spec" in future. Maybe they'll ignore those erroneous errors they notice throughout the day and wait for a bug report in production.

Companies that don't give raises can expect all of these behaviors.

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user5994461 2643 days ago
None of this is leverage. You're wasting your own time at best and will have less achievements to talk about in your next job interview.

Same thing if your next advice is to stop working 60 hours a week and overtime. This was a huge mistake and you should never have done this in the first place.

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Waterluvian 2642 days ago
To me that seems just plain immature.
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flukus 2641 days ago
It's immature to clock in, do exactly what you get paid for and clock out? If the company expected you to do more than that then they would compensate appropriately.
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readingnews 2639 days ago
Yes, I did leave. The real problem is: the only method of pay increase is leaving. Well, so now I am the "new guy" every two to three years. I have no real investment in the company, and they have none in me. Right or wrong, is that the workforce that we want to cultivate? I have not been at any company more than a few years because of this (literally, not boasting, I do something great, they recognize wow this person is great, and I receive nothing so I leave)... the problem is that as one ages, this gets old (no pun intended). Job hopping as an old person in an IT/tech field is not pretty, and probably not fashionable.

My concern is, how do new, young(er) people get raises? I would use my time as a cautionary tale... job hopping seems to fine at the start, but as you progress it gets worse. My issue is that I am still underpaid by a long shot. If I stayed at the first company I would still be making 1/3 of what I am now, but I am also making 1/2 of what the "new guy" makes. Not sure where this is all going (on a large scale, not my story), or how this is helping the country/economy.

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