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by ochenvoysim 2636 days ago
This insanity is HUGE in American prisons. There was a book called (I think) "One Man Out" where the author describes a case where someon used Sovereign Citizen declarations to get themselves released from incarceration supposedly. This somehow spread to nearly every correctional facility in the country and because many inmates are mentally ill in some fashion they eat this up (and it's a possible Get Out of Jail Free card, and when you're serving 60+ years I'm sure you'd try damn near anything to be released). Usually this results in just a lot of talk about becoming sovereign citizens and getting, and getting the millions of dollars held in some secret bank account attached to your social security number... and ends with some idiot filing liens against the warden of the prison (not making this shit up) and then the prisons banning all Uniform Commercial Code reference books from the institutions. I don't remember why but something to do with the whole name in all caps means you're actually a corp of some flavor - social security card is a bank account - there's millions of dollars backing that SS number - you can file liens as a corp against the warden for restricting your corp's free trade or traveling rights or some such fuckery -- then the lien will force the warden by the laws of the UCC to let you out..... It's insane, even for prison. edit -- found an example of the lien's real effects: https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2001-04-08-0...
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This Canadian judge's ruling includes pretty much a full reference book on this kind of weird stuff and its attempted application to court systems (Canadian and U.S.), which he calls "Organized Pseudolegal Commercial Argument": https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012a...
oh man, labeling the preachers of this as "gurus" is perfect -- it's always one pseudo-intellectual convincing a group of followers lol. This really is the most organized and comprehensive summary for rebutting this nonsense in court that I've ever seen. I thought it was only an American issue... huh. It has to be exhausting dealing w/delusional people.
"vexatious litigants" -- lmfao